Dialog Itu..

Mungkin pernah baca postingan ini? Saya dapat email ini dari keponakan yang baru saja selesai menuntaskan seminar tugas aKhirnya (harusnya sih sudah lulus). Setelah dibaca, rasanya sayang sekali kalau tidak menyimpannya di blog ini. Sebuah dialog yang menarik direnungkan di bulan puasa ini. Itu menurut saya, entahlah pendapat rekan-rekan.. SImak saja ..

An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty.
He asks one of his new students to stand and…..
Prof:
So you believe in God?
Student:
Absolutely, sir.
Prof
:
Is God good?
Student:
Sure.
Prof:
Is God all-powerful?
Student
: Yes.
Prof:
My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him.
Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn’t.
How is this God good then? Hmm?
(Student is silent.)
Prof:
You can’t answer, can you? Let’s start again, young fella. Is God good?
Student:
Yes.
Prof:
Is Satan good?
Student
: No.
Prof:
Where does Satan come from?
Student:
From…God.. .
Prof:
That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student:
Yes.
Prof:
Evil is everywhere, isn’t it? And God did make everything. Correct?
Student:
Yes.
Prof:
So who created evil?
(Student does not answer.)
Prof:
Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they?
Student:
Yes, sir.
Prof:
So, who created them?
(Student has no answer.)
Prof:
Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you.
Tell me, son…Have you ever seen God?
Student:
No, sir.
Prof:
Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student:
No, sir.
Prof:
Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
Student:
No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.
Prof:
Yet you still believe in Him?
Student:
Yes.
Prof:
According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student:
Nothing. I only have my faith.
Prof:
Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
Student:
Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Prof:
Yes.
Student:
And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof:
Yes.
Student:
No sir. There isn’t.
(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student
: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold . Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat .. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy . Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it .
(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)
Student:
What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof:
Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?
Student :
You’re wrong again, sir.. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light….But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it’s called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?
Prof:
So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student:
Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof:
Flawed? Can you explain how?
Student:
Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can’t even explain a thought. It uses
electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.
Now tell me, Professor.Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Prof:
If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student:
Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)
Student:
Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.)
Student:
Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?
(The class breaks out into laughter.)
Student
: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain,sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir? (The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable. )
Prof:
I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.
Student:
That is it sir… The link between man & god is FAITH . That is all
that keeps things moving & alive.

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47 responses to “Dialog Itu..

  1. nice quote.., kayak nya ada yang versi indonesia nya ya, tapi yang ini lebih lengkap, thanks for share mbak..

  2. i read this in mailing list in indonesian version btw good posting..

  3. Saya suka bagian akhirnya “The link between man and God is FAITH” , itu lah sebabnya kita tetap berdoa kepadaNYA, karena yakin memang Tuhan ada dan maha besar.

    Tks utk sharenya … gimana udh batal belom puasanya?

  4. mahasiswa yg pintar…. (god bless him/her)
    andai aku jd mahasiswa itu, udah cabut dr tadi deh.

  5. The link between man & god is FAITH . That is all
    that keeps things moving & alive.

    Aku senang sekali statement itu …

    Thanks ya …
    Salam saya …

  6. hmm…nice quote…

    “..just have a little faith..” -michael scolfield- Prison Break…

  7. “Prof:
    I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.”

    bisa ditambahin dgn kata ini πŸ˜€
    “Faith and Works”

  8. ngomong apaan sih ?? kagak ngerti akunya πŸ˜‰

  9. hmmm.. nice.. pernyataan terakhirnya πŸ˜€

  10. baca awalnya, ngeliat bahasa asing, *mual dan pusing-pusing*
    salam kenal!

  11. ariefdjβ„’

    ..meskipun dialognya imaginer, tapi isi-nya bolehlah.. πŸ™‚

  12. ya, hubungan kita dengan God ya memang iman kepercayaan. Ini tidak bisa dijelaskan dengan logika matematika, fisika…. bukan begitu?

  13. sayangnya orang yang udah ateis mah hanya mau maen logika doang… gak bisa pake “sedikitpun keimanan”. hehe…. nice post!

  14. Nice post. Pernah denger apa baca yah versi yang lain. tapi hampir sama kayak gini. good post.

  15. zee

    postingan yang menarik, mestinya kayak gini2 sering dijadikan quote di kantor ato sekolah..

  16. mastal

    waduh harus diartikan dulu nih di kamus .. hihihh πŸ™‚

  17. nice story about how to tell what faith really is…keren2

  18. ^_^ Cantik sekali dialognya. Diakhiri dengan kalimat yang elegan. MantaBs…!

    it’s my FAITH…!

  19. wah…artikel filosofis nih, hehe πŸ˜• boleh sy tau drmna awal sumbernya ? πŸ˜› *secara telat infonya untuk direnungkan* .
    Spemahaman pribadi sy ada dua logika: logika sebab-akibat & satu lagi logika tau’an. Yg terakhir ini tidak bisa dijelaskan secara sains, ghaib, diluar akal manusia. Jadi batasan masalahnya, yakni :Filosofis is filosofis, sciences is sciences & faiths is faiths. God create everything>> bumi, langit, binatang, dll…termasuk kita yg diberi kewajiban u/ beribadah kepada-Nya.
    Btw..Cerita Professor of filosofis dengan studentnya cukup menarik untuk disimak ya… πŸ˜› πŸ˜€ πŸ™‚ hihihi

    Silahkan dihapus ajah komen dr sy bila ada yf kurang berkenan dihati.
    Regards,
    Dari mosleum yg masih belajar ilmu agama..chayo

  20. salam
    Nice conversation *masih mencerna * πŸ™‚

  21. what the point is? *belum mudeng*

  22. ini kek DUNIA sOFI deh versi ammar’s blog πŸ˜€
    aku dah kenyang mbak kuliah philosophy in science
    :mrgreen:

  23. memang kucing satu ini nggak pernah kehabisan ide postingan
    sukses !!!!

  24. Sy udah baca versi Indonesianya, skitar 3 tahun lalu kalo ga salah.

    nice post.. πŸ™‚

    “akal butuh hati untuk mengimani’
    “hati butuh akal untuk meyakini”

    mari dialogkan akal dan hati kita

  25. mbak add aku donk!
    kita tukeran link ya!
    makasih!
    link mbak sudah aku add di blog ku.

  26. awi

    itu konsep bagus dalam memahami keberadaan Tuhan bagi atheis. tapi yang bersifat sangat tinggi emang biasanya tdk dpt dilihat, contoh matahari itu suhunya sgt tinggi, kita tdk dpt menatapnya dr jarak dekat, dan banyak contoh2 yg lain

  27. masmoemet

    mbak … pinjam kamusnya bentar dunk … πŸ™„

  28. duh aku juga malah kayak masmoemet πŸ˜€

  29. thegands

    ndak ngerti….

  30. bagus, untung ditampilin ga cuman disimpen..
    ijin copy ke kompie Teh…

    saya sendiri ga setuju dengan anggapan klo Agama itu ga bisa diukur dengan logika..
    bisa kok.. justru agama yang membuat kita memiliki logika

  31. translatein dunk mbak susan πŸ˜†

    ———-> Hangga.. cb mampir ke blognya fauzansigma…tuh lht deh postingan di bawahmu itu lho.. btw akalahati (ini postingan di atasmu) sdh pernah baca dialog ini 3 thn lalu..halah si ammar ketinggalan..

  32. saya pernah translete-in ituh lho… diblog sy

  33. yessymuchtar

    keren banget…

  34. arifrahmanlubis

    yup. mantabs

  35. nana

    dari kmaren2 saya mbaca mampir di blog ini tapi lupa komen..
    hehehehhe..
    dialog yg bagus… makanya tuh profesor jangan sotoy ah…

  36. Arm

    transedental tuh…

    udah ngga masuk logika si…

    permasalahannya tinggal apakah yg kita percayai itu benar…? πŸ™‚

  37. Good posting, lady. It’s a mystery until we meet Him someday. Believe and prepare ourselves. πŸ˜‰

  38. wah… memang seharusnya seorang muslim seperti itu …

    mampu menerangkan keyakinannya pada Allah … πŸ™‚

    semoga sang professor mengerti … πŸ™‚

  39. dialog yang sehat

    kalo aku salah satu mahasiswanya
    paling aku dipojokan sambil maen remi
    hehehe

    good argue from the student

  40. Sumpah deh Mar… bahasa inggrisku amburadul!!! jadi nggak mudheng!

  41. nggak dhong… pake basa inggris:(

  42. Ya, pernah baca yang versi Indonesia. Tapi gak papa, sebagai pengayaan bahan bacaan….

  43. that’s good for our life guidance so far. Hi nice to knowing you soon. have a nice day on your life.
    view at http://faisal14.wordpress.com

  44. “The link between man & god is FAITH” …
    link between man & evil is FAITH without Knowledge …betul ga yak πŸ˜€

  45. hmm…. baca lagi ah, ntar baru komentar.

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